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Is a vintage gold-coloured Montblanc fountain pen with the nib embossings 4810, M, 140, MONTBLANC and 585 genuine?

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The writing instrument described corresponds to an original Montblanc from the late 1950s; due to the size it is presumably a 744 rather than a 742. Counterfeits of old vintage models are extremely rare and stem, if present, mostly from no-name vintage nibs that are visually easily to distinguish. This model is quite of interest for collectors and counts as a good everyday writing instrument.

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Original discussion in the forum 5 posts · 2 participants · October 2009 – November 2009

Unabridged posts from the archive of the German fountainpen.de forum. E-mail addresses and telephone numbers have been removed. The posts are in German.

  1. Mats

    Hello!
    I don't speak German, so I write this in English.
    I just got hold of a vintage Mont Blanc pen. See pictures here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/594638/message/1256504828/Lite+off+topi…

    I don't know anything about pens, but I would like to know if this is an original Mont Blanc pen and if so, is it worth anything for a collector?

    My pen is gold colored, 13,2 cm long with cap on, thecap is 6,5 cm long and has a diameter 11,5 mm, the cap is marked "MONTBLANC Materpiece, There is no marking on the top of the pen. The "stylus" is marked "4810, M, 140, MONTBLANC, 585". The pen has a few scratches but otherwise it's in good condition. To me it looks genuine. I haven't tested it but the pump seems to be working fine. BTW: My pen looks exactly like this one, but without the "142"-marking: fountainpen.de/sini-742-50.htm

    Vielen dank!
    /Mats (Schweden)

  2. steiner

    Dear Mats,

    yes, this seems to be a original Montblanc pen from the late fifties. I like those pens and they are a good "everyday writer". Considering the size of the pen I assume that this is rather a 744 than a 742.

    ... and yes, this is of course anything worth for a collector. Please have a look at ebay.de or ebay.com there you will often find those pens. In order to define the value of your pen, just have a look at the prices that were paid for similar ones.

    Best regards
    Michael

  3. Mats

    Thank you very much! But how can I know it is a real Mont Blanc? There is no model number on the top of my pen.

    /Mats

  4. steiner

    Hello Mats,

    I'm not aware of any fakes concerning this model.

    ... most often you will find fakes of modern pens ... faked vintage pens are rare.

    Next IF there are fakes for vintage pens then they are made of other no-name vintage pens and you will easily recognize the difference.

    Have a look at the following link for just some examples (although some photos seem to be missing).

    Everything concerning this pen seems to be ok, so I assume that this is no fake.

    Best regards
    Michael

  5. Mats

    Hi again!

    Thanks a lot for your answer! Do you know what it may be worth?

    Best regards,
    Mats

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